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Friday, November 23, 2012

Doomsday approaches or does it? - Cecilia Rose Reporting ....

What do avies think about the Mayan's prediction of Doomsday? 

Before answering this initial question, it is necessary to focus on some fundamental issues, such as: what the Mayan calendar really is? How does it work and  what is the contribution of modern research on the Prophecy?

1) What is the Mayan Calendar?

The Mayan calendar is a system of calendars used in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, and in many modern communities in highland Guatemala and in Veracruz, Oaxaca and Chiapas, Mexico.

The essentials of the Maya calendar are based upon a system which had been in common use throughout the region, dating back to at least the 5th century BCE. It shares many aspects with calendars employed by other earlier Mesoamerican civilizations, such as the Zapotec and Olmec, and contemporary or later ones such as the Mixtec and Aztec calendars.

Although the Mesoamerican calendar did not originate with the Maya, their subsequent extensions and refinements of it were the most sophisticated. Along with those of the Aztecs, the Maya calendars are the best-documented and most completely understood.

By the Maya mythological tradition, as documented in Colonial Yucatec accounts and reconstructed from Late Classic and Postclassic inscriptions, the deity Itzamna is frequently credited with bringing the knowledge of the calendar system to the ancestral Maya, along with writing in general and other foundational aspects of Maya culture.

2) How does it work?

The calendar combined many different counts. Each had an independent cycle running without reference to another cycle. This is very similar to our naming of days. For example: Monday, November 9, 1999 is composed of a cycle that runs independently of the "November 9"; not all days named November 9 will occur on Monday or during 1999, Just as I would say that today is November 9, in the year 1999, the Maya people could also accurately describe time. Although the Maya used a different system, their purpose was the same.

3) The contribution of modern

A newly discovered Mayan text reveals the "end date" for the Mayan calendar, becoming only the second known document to do so. But unlike some modern people, ancient Maya did not expect the world to end on that date, researchers said. "The text talks about ancient political history rather than prophecy," Marcello A. Canuto, director of Tulane University's Middle American Research Institute, said. [1]                                                                                                                                                                    The Mayan Long Count calendar is divided into bak'tuns, or 144,000-day cycles that begin at the Maya creation date.

 The winter solstice of 2012 (Dec. 21) is the last day of the 13th bak'tun, marking what the Maya people would have seen as a full cycle of creation. New Age believers and doomsday types have attributed great meaning to the Dec. 21, 2012 date, with some predicting an apocalypse and others some sort of
profound global spiritual event. But only one archaeological reference to the 2012 date had ever been found, as an inscription on a monument dating back to around A.D. 669 in Tortuguero, Mexico.

 Now, researchers exploring the Mayan ruins of La Corona in Guatemala have unearthed a second reference. On a stairway block carved with hieroglyphs, archaeologists found a commemoration of a visit by Yuknoom Yich'aak K'ahk' of Calakmul, the most powerful Mayan ruler in his day. The king, also known as Jaguar Paw, suffered a terrible defeat in battle by the Kingdom of Tikal in 695.

 Bearing 56 delicately carved hieroglyphs, the stone referring to the year 2012 commemorated a royal visit to La Corona (which the ancient Maya called Saknikte’) by the ruler Yuknoom Yich’aak K’ahk’ from the great Maya capital of Calakmul on Jan. 29, 696 A.D.

Scholars had assumed that the Calakmul king died or was captured in this engagement, but this new extraordinary text from La Corona tells us otherwise," said StuartIn the wake of the defeat, the Maya ruler visited La Corona and perhaps other trusted allies to allay their fears after his defeat. According to the archaeologists, the 2012 reference would have been a political move by the Calakmul king, who wanted to reassure the peoples of La Corona after the stunning defeat [1]*    
If we look in detail the sentences [1], [1]* and combine them together, then the argument that the date given is more about political change rather than the end of time (End Times), becomes steadfast.

The key to understanding the reference to 2012 is a unique title that the king gave himself, said the archaeologists.  In the text, he calls himself the "13 K’atun lord" -- the king who presided over and celebrated an important Mayan calendar ending, 13 K’atun calendar cycle, in the year 692. In order to vaunt himself even further and place his reign into an eternal setting, the Maya king connected himself forward in time to when the next higher period of the Maya calendar would reach the same 13 number -- December 21, 2012.

4) After this detailed presentation, it's time to see what your own views on the subject!!!

(And yes avies can think, I have seen it happening).

Five different people/avatars were asked to share their thoughts on the  Mayan's prediction of Doomsday.

Here is what they have to say:

A) Emlies Xeltentat"I do not  put any faith in predictions to be honest, neither I'm afraid of it.
If the world will end on the 21st of December, Than I am able to say I have had a nice and rich life and no one will care or bother for the world would have ended then anyway"

B) Alan Zalivstok: "well for me i'd have to say that calendar is likely misunderstood  i don't believe they thought that would be the end of days, I am more inclined to believe they felt it was set far enough ahead that they would not need to worry over it.  so to me the whole " end of time" from that point is myth or a grand piece of fictional guessing.  though admittedly weather is getting much much more brutal over the years so i'd have to say if end of time comes about it'll be by our own undoing and not some calendar".

C) Orchide Delmar (orchide2): "I don't think it's possible for the world end in December, It will be just another galactic alignment. The Mayan calendar is a Mythology, It's like a tradition.The Maya consist of several cycle of counts. The last day of the Mayan calendar corresponds with the Winter Solstice (or December Solstice), which has played a significant role in many cultures all over the world. It means it's a part of a religion"

D) -e-M (remaker): ich habe keine angst davor, aber ich bin auch überzeugt, dass dieser Kalender falsch intaprettiert wurde, ich denke, dass sich die mayas diese geschichte ausgedacht haben, um sich den nötigen respekt bei ihren untertanen zu verschaffen. aberglaube und angst sind eine mächtige stimulanz. "  ( He is German, so I will  translate what he said.)

"I'm afraid of it, but I'm also convinced that this calendar was wrong interpreted. I think that the Mayas have invented this story in order to gain the necessary respect from their subjects. superstition and fear is a powerful stimulant."

E) Starla Farella"I am not concerned about the end of the world...I may be hit by a truck tomorrow, that is my thought.  I believe that we all have a "soul", an intelligent energy, and no matter what happens to our bodies, the soul never dies. In the Bible, it says that only God knows when the world will end. and if someone actually got the date right, by chance, God would change the date." (She laughs at this point).

We don't know what while happen after all ... until then live every minute like it's the last one!


  1. Reminds me of the Y2K mess 13 years ago, when people were afraid all modern technology would cease to function just because too many people were too lazy to use four digit numbers for dates in computer programs.


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